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Has anyone tried these? I have used them and liked the consistency but was very disappointed when I went to glaze about a week after the last application and the undercoat lifted to the bare canvas. Anyone else had any problems? Anne
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19/05/2008 20:39:56
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Edna, I too am totally frustrated with Atelier Interactive. I have enquired on another forum if there is anyone who is pleased with their results. Have re-read the blurb, bought three of the mediums but like you, painting over days later, lifts off previously painted work. Using the fixer medium is pointless as you may just as well have used conventional acrylics in the first place! If there is someone who can tell me that they are please with their work then I will persevere further. It would seem that oil is a better option for what is claimed for Atelier or continue with ordinary acrylics as we know them.
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30/06/2008 17:34:49
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Hello Edna & John,
The idea of the Atelier Interactive Acrylics is that you have a medium that you can keep working back into like oils, but they do not take as long to dry as oils. The idea is that unlike standard acrylics, if you are unhappy with part of the painting you can lift it, like you would with oils; give the area a fine spray from the mist sprayer just enough to start moving & re-working the paint (do not soak the area with water). Anything that you are happy with leave well alone. If you are going to varnish your finished painting then you need to use a fixing medium first when the painting is dry, then varnish over it. Michael Sanders has done a very good article in the September edition of Paint on page 18-19.
We hope you find this helpful.
With regards Kim@saa.co.uk
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17/09/2008 12:54:01
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I found almost the opposite, i painted an underlayer for my sky, pale blue at the bottom and darker blue towards the top, i was hoping to have an extended working time in which to blend the two tonal values together, however i found the drying time to be the same as ordinary acrylics and once the tacky stage was reached if i used the mist spray and i mean a very light misting the colour re-wetted but was not easy to move around as it lifted and left blotchy patches, not the even blending i was hoping for, if another misting was given the paint became too loose and became streaky. However, if i let the colour dry for an hour or so, no amount of water misted onto it would re-wet it it had dried just like a standard acrylic. The unlocking formula did work but had the same effect as when i misted tacky colour, the paint clumped together and was not easy to blend without it lifting. I haven't given up yet and will keep trying various techniques with the various mediums. My biggest annoyance with the product is the colours take some getting used to, the green oxide of chromium, vermillion, burnt sienna, burnt umber, ultramarine and cobalt blue hue are nothing like the equivalent hues in Liquitex, W&N or Daler Rowney ranges etc so colours that i am used to mixing and working with, i now have to 'Re-Learn' as it were, very frustrating. There is another slow drying acrylic the 'Golden Open' acrylic range, i'm considering buying a couple of their tubes to check colour accuracy an
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15/01/2009 23:39:36
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Continued from previous post........ and to see if they handle better, worse or similarly to the Atelier interactives.... i'll let you know....Steve
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15/01/2009 23:45:06
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The good people at SAA contacted me about this thread, and I was a bit worried at what I read. We have had very few problems with Atelier Interactive, so I copied the content to Jennifer Von Stein, our Resident Artist, at the Chroma USA office. Jennifer took the time to compose a reply covering most of the issues raised..........
"Without knowing specifics, such as what surface was used, how it was prepared, what mediums were used, etc. here are general tips for the SAA.
Proper preparation of your surface will make your painting experience much better! Preparing and sealing your surface with Binder Medium or a high quality gesso like Atelier Gesso will facilitate proper paint adhesion.
Interactive cures over time - generally about 7-10 days, but it can be shorter or longer depending on your climate, how thickly you paint, and what mediums were added. In a humid situation, where artists have incorporated lots of Slow Medium to extend their working time, the curing time will be longer.
If you want to keep a layer from interacting, seal that layer with coat or two of Binder Medium and let dry. The Binder will seal the layers and allow you to safely glaze. I'd suggest Clear Painting Medium or Slow Medium for a glazing medium.
Interactive was designed to be a versatile acrylic, setting up fairly quickly like conventional acrylics, but allowing you work wet-in-wet by using your water sprayer or Unlocking Formula. Spray enough so the paint feels slick again and
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16/01/2009 14:49:11
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After great difficulty in finding anywhere to buy them (I wasn't an SAA member) I finally got some last week. I've so far only done one small painting on canvas to try them out. I used a regular acrylic ground and painted on top of it and have to say I'm utterly delighted with them. I can't wait to try a portrait which is where I need most blending but so far they do everything they are claimed to do. I managed to glaze after drying the painting just overnight without any lifting of colour but was able to re wet other areas and blend. It has now been drying for 4 days so I need to go back to see whether they have cured or whether they will still work. Do far I'm hooked.
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17/01/2009 16:45:28
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got some Golden open acrylics 2 days ago, i only bought 4 colours this time in view of my poor experience with the Ateliers. having had a good play with them i think i would say i preferred them to the Ateliers, they blend ok on the canvas, though they don't feel like oils, and stay workable for up to an hour i would say (i brush out the colour to a fairly thin but still opaque layer) after that they dry and act like any other acrylic and dont seem to re-wet with water. However the big surprise i had was that the blobs of paint i squeezed out onto a china plate are still usuable 2 days on, they have become a bit stiffer but definitely still usable. Overall though i dont think either of these paints offer me what i was looking for and so in future i will stick with traditional Acrylics and for soft blended subjects use Alkyds. I'm sure these paints would suit some artists methods of working, but for large expanses of imperceptibly smooth gradiations that need working into the result is somewhat patchy and so just not for me.
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23/01/2009 14:53:13
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I bought the starter set and and a few extra tubes thinking this was going to be the perfect medium as I've used acrylics for many years and my one critism of them was that that they dried too quick. I started with a small painting just to get the feel of them and it was great that they didn't form a skin but I was working on a linen canvas that you leave blank so couldn't really do anything to the surface first, and you don't have to with ordinary acrylics. I found this paint didn't adhere very well and formed little watery blobs. I had to apply it very thickly to get it to stay on.It may have been this particular canvas. I'd not used that before either but I will try again on a different surface. I didn't know you were supposed to use something else before varnishing either. Nothing in the instructions said that. It took my signature off, but that was done with a pen. The paint didn't seem to be affected by it.
I'll keep watching on here as I'm interested to see what other people think and may get some of the Golden Open to try with it.
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05/03/2009 10:02:28
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Diana |
JUst thought I'd follow up on my earlier post. My first painting in a very textures, oil painting style was a wonderful experience with the interactives but when I later tried to do a portrait with them, it was an absolute disaster. When I tried to blend the colours, they simply moved each other around, lifted off the under painting and generally went muddy. Very disappointing indeed. They obviously work well for some styles but not for others. I've since tried Golden Open and found them far far better; soft and buttery, easy to blend and move around and they do indeed stay open for such a long time.I could happily work the paints for 4 hours or more. I left some in a stay wet palette for a week and they were still workable
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10/03/2009 11:43:03
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Diana, I am also a painter and work for Chroma in Australia. I’m sorry you had an awful experience with that first portrait you did with Atelier Interactives. I understand your frustration about not being able to blend because I switched from regular style acrylics to oils for that reason and have now discovered Interactive.
Interactive dries at much the same rate as conventional acrylics. Clear Painting Medium is the best medium to use for blending, producing a looser paint with slower drying time.
In big blended areas Clear Painting Medium can be laid down directly onto the canvas, acting as a colour blending tool. The medium can be added to each color mix meaning that you don’t have to panic about paints drying too fast or dipped into as you load your brush.
When the layer is sealed as Jennifer referred to above it will prevent muddiness from the layer below lifting but make sure that your have not introduced too much water into the paint as this will create dull colours in blending. Over blending and brushing can also have the effect of muddying your colour mixtures.
Mitch Waite, a well known UK artist demonstrates blending and wet in wet techniques using Atelier Interactive in a newly released DVD, You can watch it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUPzG8ec188
I hope this helps and happy art making!
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24/09/2009 07:23:28
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